From: South Carolina Historical and Genealogical Magazine, Vol. pgs. 48-51: In 1749 Rev. John Giessendanner, who had been a Dissenter minister in Orangeburgh Township theretofore, went to England in order to be ordained to the Episcopal ministry. In order to strengthen his case a petition in his behalf was presented to His Majesty's Council of South Carolina by citizens of Orangeburgh Township. A copy of this petition was made by William Backshell, acting Secretary of the province, for Mr. Giessendanner to take with him. It bears evidence that Backshell was the poor copyist that Gov. Glen characterized him as on several occasions. This copy is now in Fulham Palace, London, and the following transcript thereof was procured there from by Mr. E. Alfred Jones, of London, for A.S. Salley, Jr.

It looks like there have been 2 versions of this petition: one original and a copy,  made by Backshell, which is on the Orangeburg page.
Does anybody know if the original is also available anywhere?

From the records of the LDS comes a wedding in Scheftenau, St Gallen, Switzerland between:
Johan Melchior Roth x Susanna Barbara Giezendauner (obvious Giezendanner) on
April 26th, 1421

We would like to find the source for this event. Is anybody willing to see if the files in Salt Lake City will reveal the original info?
It is supposed to be written from a book prior to 1889?
Numbers found in connection to this info are: Source call Numbers
Batch 178062 - 178064 and A178062, I do not know what that means.

Answer: came in June, the numbers are only available to those who qualify (direct family and members of the church). Info coming soon.

For years we have been searching for information that was supposed to be in the Zurich Exhibition of 1939, but all our efforts to find anything were in vain.
I will quote now the info that we have:

A letter received on Giezendanner Coat of Arms and history at National Exposition in 1939 in Zürich; in short:
the name existed even before 1200 and the name of the "founder" was given to the property; originally by Hanny Schelling of Switzerland

as far as we can determine, the location of this family exhibit probably was:
1939 Swiss National Exposition-
Exhibit of Giezendanner Coat of Arms
Exhibition Nationale Suisse - Zurich 1939 dans:
Le Pays et le Peuple, Section "Notre Peuple" (212)
ou "Au Merite-(21 F)" documents concernant
La Famille Giezendanner Ebnat-Kappel,
St Gall Bibliotheque Nationale Suisse

To explain in short: Hanny Schelling, who has died since, told us in a letter that she had seen this exhibition, but was unable to absorb the info concerning the family because WW II started and the exhibition was closed.
She claimed to have seen a display of the family story dating back to the 1200's.

Now my direct question is:
are you or anyone able to direct us to this info?
Obviously we would be extremely grateful with any help.
mail to Joop

Thank you very much in advance
Best regards,
Joop Giesendanner


  1. In the letter of Hans Ulrich Giezendanner to Paravicini, dated April 23, 1737, Hans writes to have arrived here (Charles Town) the first of February (Old Style).
  2. The Giezendanner party which came to America in 1737 numbered eleven persons
  3. GEIGER - Rhynthal, Diebolzau, Zurich, Switzerland. Hans Jacob Geiger bapt. 5 July 1679 Wydnau, Dispololsov, St. Gallen, Switzerland, former cantonal govenor, moved to Carolina September 1736. From Trullikon Parish and all four sections of it, since 1734, there was no one with the intention of going to the new-found-land except: Elsbeth Habluzel from Trullikon, who however first married Herman Gyger from the parish Dielbolzau in Rhynthal, February 26, 1734. He is said to have taken away from his father, etc., according to an understanding with him, about 800 pounds. From their destination the man wrote to his poor brother-in-law and relatives, as I have seen and read in the letter, that he was getting along well, he had plenty of food, and if they wished, they should come to him. Enough to eat and also to work they would find with him; if they could only provide for themselves as far as England, he would from there on pay their passage, but with the provision, that they would pay back the outlay with work. But on my advice they remained, but had not the old sister-in-law died, and if povety did not hold them back, I do not know what they would do. Faust Vol. 1, pg.89
    *Arrived CharlesTown Feb.1, 1737, Prince of Wales,
    Saxe Gotha Township grants September 1737.
  4. Bartholomaeus Reisor embarked on the Second Transport from Rotterdam. The Ship was "Prince of Wales" and its Captain was George Dunbar. The date was 31 Oct 1734. He arrived in Savannah 28 Dec 1734, and settled at Ebenezer, Effingham County, Georgia. With him were his wife, Maria Zugseisen, and his three sons.
    Original Georgia Salzburger Settlers
    2nd Salzburg Transport
    Arrival - 1734 Dec 28 Prince of Wales Capt. George Dunbar

  5. Not the right trip, but the "Prince of Wales" with Captain George Dunbar is definitely sailing around in these waters
    1723 South Carolina became a Royal Province
    1733-53 Settlement of Georgia coast and along the Savannah River
    1732-33 James Oglethorpe settled Savannah, GA with 35 families - Protestants & debtors from prisons
    13 Sep 1733 South Carlolina colonial records show a payment made to James Ogelvice- Oglevey
    1734 Oglethorpe returned to England - Thomas Causton represented the Trustees 

    Ship left Inverness, Scotland with Highlander military company of 110 men, 50 wives & children - settled in St. Andrews Par., now Liberty Co. Prince of Wales with Cpt. George Dunbar arrived in Charles Town going to New Inverness, now Darien, GA, with Scottish Highlanders 
    [April 1996: Scots of Mclntosh lists early Highlanders in Darien 1736-1741 - no Ogilvies listed]

  6. Any information about the trip that was supposed to end in Charles Town Feb 1, 1737, passengerlist or anything else concerning this matter , please e-mail me.